Dawn has a point. In order to understand the entire context of Ann DeLacy's paranoia and distrust, it's best to see all the e-mails. The entire thread from its inception, best as I can capture it, is here. I didn't paste the prior messages before because, honestly, I didn't see the jump from talking about school segregation (which I think is a real problem) to Ann's going on about herself.
I reamin uncertain as to why some people who I have a lot of respect for, for their commitment to ensuring equal treatment for all, choose to support this woman. She is, based on her public comments, one of the meanest campaigners I have ever encountered, and that's saying a lot. And I certainly do NOT think that as a board member, she would see all who come before her with equality and justice in her eyes.
"Gang of Four"? "Hate speech"? All the other name calling of Corey Andrews and others? Not nice. Not nice at all.
As I have written before, a shame, really, because this woman does bring a resume that the Board of Education could really use.
If you like Allen Dyer, you will love Ann DeLacy. Enough said. Anyway... to the thread!
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Mr. Andrews,
Mr. Diller has his own agenda which has nothing to do with yours or supports your beliefs. Now you are being manipulated and used for anothers benefit. You were being attacked for your age and lack of experience and will coninue to face this for some time. In both cases it is your youth which is being exploited. I hope this helps you and sincerely wish you the best. The reality is soon we all must turn the world over to your generation. I honestly believe you will do quite well.
jack
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__._,_.__--- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Sue Medicus <berryfolks@...> wrote:>> That's ok, Kerry>> I guess I focused more on income variances than I did on segregation,> that's where I missed the connection>> Sue>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Kerry Ose <kerry@...> wrote:>> > **> >> >> > I'm sorry, Sue. I appreciated the discussion of the history of segregation> > in this article, and we have been discussing segregati on quite a bit in> > this forum.> >> > Kerry> > On Aug 26, 2012 5:10 PM, "Sue Medicus" <berryfolks@...> wrote:> >> >> **> >>> >>> >> I guess I miss the connection to issues on Howardpubliced> >>> >> Sorry, seems totally political to me and I think we all try to steer> >> clear of that on this sharing group> >>> >> Sue Medicus> >>> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Kerry Ose <kerry@...> wrote:> >>> >>> **> >>>> >>>> >>> This article is a blockbuster. It brilliantly elucidates MANY factors> >>> that underlie what we have been discussing on Howardpubliced.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> --> >> Sue Medicus> >>> >>> >>>>> --> Sue Medicus>
Well, this isn't exactly the entire thread, nor does it provide context for the particular statement that I mentioned (in response to Mike F) needed context. Mike asked about Ann's statement that was in response to a question from "Michelle," which you (conveniently?) didn't include. And the whole discussion was in the context of a larger discussion after someone posted a link to the recent controversial article in The Atlantic on "Fear of a Black President."
To me, this post doesn't look like much "context" at all, but rather just another opportunity to take a shot at Ann DeLacy. (And I will say that I don't necessarily like or agree with everything Ann says, or the way she chooses to say it, but I like Corey Andrews' union bashing even less.)
Posted by: DawnP | August 29, 2012 at 07:50 AM
And as an aside, I think the howardpubliced listserv is incredibly dysfunctional and would love to see a new group formed for people who actually want to discuss issues involving our school system like reasonable adults, without all of the personal sniping, conspiracy theories, and unhinged diatribes.
Posted by: DawnP | August 29, 2012 at 08:36 AM
Este blog es increíble y la información proporcionada por el artículo de este blog es muy agradable y servicial y me volvería a visitar el blog de nuevo.
Posted by: adidas f50 adizero | October 24, 2012 at 02:08 AM